The Scientology Comparative Theology Page
Scientology and Christianity
| Research Materials on
Scientology. Watchman Fellowship
|Is Scientology Compatible With Christianity?,
John Weldon, Christian Research Journal, 1993.
Theological presuppositions (Scientology beliefs regarding God, Man,
Creation, Salvation, Death, and the Occult) and Critique.
Scientology a Religion? F.A.C.T.Net links.
Scientology, Satanism, & the Occult . More F.A.C.T.Net links.
| Kingdom of
the Cults, Scientology subchapter, Walter Martin.
Scientology and Christianity. Cornelius Krasel
Scientology a religion? Modemac
Scientology and Christianity , Roland Rashleigh-Berry. Comparison
of Scientology/Christian concepts of heaven, Christ, and God, with
Scientology Sound Bites, Mike Gormez.
Alternate. Hubbard audio (.wav) quotes that show extreme disrespect
for Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.
Scientology believes that God exists, but goes on to say "As to
the form in which He exists, we do not know" (Scientology: A
World Religion, p. 17: What is Scientology, p. 200). And although
Scientology does not know the EXACT form of God (i.e., the Supreme Being),
it does teach that there are "gods above other gods, and gods beyond the
gods of the universes" (Scientology 8-8008, p. 72). Scientology
also states that each thetan (person) "has as far as we can see in the
manufacture of energy, about the same capabilities as those which have been
assigned to the Supreme being in the universe" (Philadelphia Doctorate
Course#9, LRH). All of these views would be problematic for Christians,
especially when Scientology claims to be compatible with all religions.
These views are certainly not compatible with Christianity.
Scientology teaches that humanity is basically good, albeit confused
about our godhood. Through knowledge (gnosticism) and training, humanity
can once again be perfect and powerful. Christianity teaches that
humanity cannot free itself from sin, and salvation can only come
through the grace of God in Jesus Christ.
From the Christian viewpoint, Scientology is a modern Pelagian heresy,
mixed with gnosticism, spiritism, legalism to the nth degree, with no
grace, no mercy, and 100% works. Scientology teaches that each man is
as god, already possessing eternal existence, capable (through
Hubbard's technology) of becoming totally free. From the Christian
viewpoint, Scientology as Satanic in origin.
Hubbard's primary claim for Scientology's religiosity hinges on
Past Lives which are revealed during auditing.
Similar to the Buddhist concept of reincarnation, Hubbard postulated a
spirit (thetan) which inhabits a series of bodies in succession.
Between lives, the thetan is commanded by implants (mind control
techniques) to return to an Implant Station, where the person forgets
their previous life. These Past Lives can only be revealed through
|Scientology Criticized 1700 Years
Peik Stromsholm, 1995.
A comparison of Scientology doctrine to Tertullian's (207 A.D.)
treatise "Against the Valentinians", an early Christian work
describing why Gnosticism is foreign to Christianity.
| Bible Review,
review of Gnosticism and the New Testament (Pheme Perkins).
Tom Joyce, Gnosis No. 12, Summer 1989
Scientology Doctrine, Christian Heresies
Scientology, as told by Scientologists, means "knowing how to know".
(More correctly, it means "the study of knowing", but Hubbard never
felt a need for pedantic accuracy.) Thus, Scientology is a gnostic
[gnosis: to know] system in every sense of the word[Stromsholm, 1995]. Through training and auditing,
the Scientologist is unburdened of his Reactive Mind, and attains
the Godlike state of Clear and Operating Thetan, and has the power to
transform matter, energy, space, and time. Attainment of Godhood
through special revelation is a hallmark of Gnostic belief systems[Davies]
Perhaps most objectionable is Hubbard's corrupt selling of spiritual
salvation at steep prices. Scientology progressively demands money from
the adherent for each gnosis. The adherent is given the option of
either paying for the next "service" or face an existence of appalling
spiritual degradation. In effect, Scientologists are spiritually held
hostage by their "Church" until large sums of money have been paid.
Hubbard set up Scientology as circles within circles; a spiritual
treadmill without end. If the adherent does not exhibit their new-found
abilities, it is the adherent's fault (the "technology" and Hubbard are
infallible) and they must re-take their courses and auditing. Of course,
since it was the adherent's fault, they must again pay the "fixed donation"
for the "services". Since the end product (God-like control over matter,
energy, space, and time) is unattainable, the system serves to transfer
sizeable sums into the Scientology organization.
|Have You Lived Before This Life?
a Scientology text about the Past Lives doctrine.
| Analysis of Lived Before,
F. W. Haack.
A key passage from Lived Before is analyzed by F. W.
Haack, one of the first German critics of Scientology. Scientology
was found guilty of repeatedly libelling Mr. Haack after he had
published his opinions.
| Analysis of Lived Before,
A comparison of Lived Before with quotes from various
religious scholars, including The Seven Ecumenical Councils of
the Undivided Church, Origen's Commentary on Matthew, and
Tertio Mellennio Adveniente by Pope John Paul II, 1994.
The primary difference between Dianetics and Scientology is the concept
of "Whole Track" auditing (See Metamorphosis to
Religion). The "Whole Track" (as opposed to this lifetime's track)
has an implicit belief in "Past Lives" (as Scientology calls it) or
reincarnation. Scientology explains that they do not believe in
reanimation, but rather that the thetan [spirit] has inhabited
many, many bodies since the beginning of time.
Scientology teaches that the thetan is quite capable of surviving
without a body, and though unusual, can even inhabit "doll" bodies
and even share a body with other thetans ["Body Thetans"]. The
thetan "picks up a body" when a baby is born, controls the mind and
body during its life, then discards the body when it is worn out or
of no further use. Then the cycle is repeated with the next body.
The basis of Scientology's belief in reincarnation is due to several
factors: 1) Dianetic pre-clears were recalling events during auditing
sessions that had not occurred during their lifetime, and 2) Recalling
these events appeared to treat the pre-clear's engrams. However,
some of these previous-life recollections are clearly fantasy; for
example, many Scientologists recall exciting and famous Past Lives when
the law of averages suggests that mundane Past Lives should be the norm.
Several people claimed to be Joan of Arc in a previous life (though
the Auditor's Code strictly forbids pointing out this inconsistency).
Hubbard's science-fiction tends to find its way into his followers'
recall as well. Auditing involves mental relaxation and can therefore
be somewhat hypnotic. False Memory Syndrome is a definite possibility.
The belief in reincarnation is openly presented to new adherents.
Scientology (or perhaps just Hubbard) claims ["Lived Before"]
that reincarnation was at one time a Christian belief, but was
removed from the Bible by a conspiracy of bishops in 553 AD. This
claim is apparently common in occult texts and is patently false
Bare Faced Messiah,
Former Scientology mission-holder chronicles the life of L.
Ron Hubbard and the development of Scientology.
Screaming Tomatoes and Blasphemous Rituals,
Rick Branch, Watchman Fellowship.
"What do screaming tomatoes, of the garden variety type,
and blasphemous rituals, of the Aleister Crowley type, have in
common? According to Martin Gardner, just one thing, Scientology
founder L. Ron Hubbard!"
Hubbard and the Occult,
Former Scientologist's research into Hubbard's Occult background
and its influence on Scientology belief and practice. Abundantly
references other works on the subject.
| Court record, California.
Scientology v. Gerry Armstrong
| Interview of L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.
The Founder's son talks about "soul cracking" and how father's Occult
rituals found their way into Scientology belief and practice.
| Crowley ... OTO ... Scientology,
"September Virgin" (psuedonym)
post describing Crowley as a Magician (not a Satanist), and his links to
the Rosicrucians, the Golden Dawn, and OTO. "[Hubbard's] ideas were
stolen unattributed from other sources, be they Korzybski, Timothy Leary,
or Aleister Crowley."
| Crowley and Satanism,
Essay posted to
Defines Satanists, Satanism, and the Satanic aspects of Aleister
Magic and the Occult
Hubbard was active in black magic[k] prior to writing Dianetics.
Corydon's cronology is supported by letters from
Aleister Crowley of the Ordo Templo
Orientis, a magician's sect organized in Europe in the early 20th
(More information on the OTO is available
Atack goes further by suggesting that Dianetics (and by extension,
Scientology) is an extension of Hubbard's black magik "research" of
Hubbard's black magick sex rituals to invoke the Whore of Babalon
are confirmed by Armstrong (Hubbard's biographer) and
L. Ron Hubbard, Jr..
After Crowley died, Hubbard visited Egypt and Crowley's estate and
assumed the mantle of "The Beast". Then, in The Philadelphia
Doctorate Course, Hubbard says:
"Now, he could simply say, "I have action." A magician - the magic
cults of the eighth, ninth, tenth, eleventh, twelfth centuries in the
Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to
do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but it's fascinating work in
itself, and that's work written by Aleister Crowley, the late
Aleister Crowley, my very good friend. And he did himself a
splendid piece of aesthetics built around those magic cults. It's very
interesting reading to get hold of a copy of a book, quite rare, but it
can be obtained. the Master Therion, T-h-e-r-i-o-n, The Master Therion
by Aleister Crowley. He signs himself "The Beast"; "The Mark of the
Beast, 666." Very, very something or other, but anyway the ...
Crowley exhumed a lot of the data from these old magic cults.", The
Philadelphia Doctorate Course, L. Ron. Hubbard, Tape #18, Dec 5,
Real Audio (USA) [296K]
Audio (UK) [296K]
In this passage, Hubbard identifies Crowley both as "my very good
friend" [a lie], and as "The Beast, six-sixty-six". To Christians,
"Beast" and "666" are alternative names for Satan and the Anti-Christ.
Hubbard probably realized his gaffe toward Christians in the audience,
and stammers the nonsensical "very, very something or other, but anyway
..." until he recovers his wits. Crowley uses the word Therion,
which is the Greek word for "beast".
Hubbard assumed the throne of "The Beast" when
so the additional modifier of "late Aliester Crowley" is significant.
The Philadelphia Doctorate Course was done after Crowley's
death, and Crowley likely provided inspiration for it.
Amusingly, Hubbard sounds like a late-night TV commercial when he hawks
Crowley's book by s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g out the name. Perhaps Hubbard really
did sell A Piece of Blue Sky as Atack
Although Hubbard was a devout follower of Crowley, Crowley appears to have
spurned Hubbard's and Parson's "research". In a letter to another OTO
member, Crowley wrote "I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy
of these louts"
Crowley was referring to Hubbard's "research" with Jack Parsons of the
OTO 9th degree where they attempted to conjure the Anti-Christ through
the "Whore of Babalon" in a sex-magick ritual at the Pasadena OTO.
point out that what Hubbard was doing and what he became do not represent
OTO teaching. The OTO website
outwardly represents the OTO as being a gnostic magician's sect. The
word "Babalon" may make Jews and Christians uneasy, but it is quite
possible that the OTO is decended from the traditions of the Chaldean sorcerers
that are described by the Jewish prophets Daniel and Jeremiah during the
Babylonian exile period ca. 600 BCE. Crowley also studied Egyptian magick
and Egyptian sorcerers are mentioned in Exodus.
"The Whore of Babylon" is a reference to the Christian Book of
Revelations, and is associated with the coming of the Anti-Christ,
Satan's representative on Earth during The Apocalypse (end of the world)
in which Satan is finally defeated. The Hebrews' Babylonian Exile period,
as recorded in the prophets Daniel and Jeremiah, is associated with worldy
temptations leading away from God (a goal of Satan). In the Book of
Daniel, the word of God is victorious over the Chaldean sorcerers and
magicians. ...and sorcery and magic bring us full-circle back to the OTO,
Aleister Crowley, Hubbard, and Scientology.
Sorcery and magic are specifically proscribed in both Jewish and Christian
law. The Jewish Law explains that magic does not originate from God,
therefore it is Man creating an idolatrous system (Deuteronomy 12(?),
also Daniel 1,2). Christianity follows Judaism's lead for the same reason
with references to "sorcery" in Acts and Revelations.
Whether Crowley (and by extension Hubbard) were "Satanists" is a contentious
"Satanic" is an ambiguous term. From
the Christian, Jewish, and Islamic perspective, Satan leads people away from
God. In fact, Crowley and Hubbard did not worship Satan as an entity - they
worshipped themselves and the power they could wield through their magick.
In essence, their magick was about getting power over others and becoming
God. While Crowley and Hubbard did not overtly worship Satan, they
certainly forwarded Satan's agenda of leading people away from God.
Hubbard adapted Crowley's exhortation "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole
of the Law.", then created Scientology. Today, the Church of Scientology
International, in the guise of the Religious Technology Center, controls
Scientology, Orgs, and Scientologists through copyrights. If the
Scientologist does not obey CSI/RTC and pay steep license fees, use of the
copyrights is revoked and access is denied to the "scriptures". "Religious
freedom" comes for the price of total obedience to Hubbard's organization.
Scientology doctrine contains many references to controlling or being
controlled. Atack  lists one of Hubbard's magic
self-affirmations to be "You can be merciless whenever your will is crossed
and you have every right to be merciless." Hubbard directed the lives of
his followers in minute detail, and exiled any staff member who crossed his
will to the Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF). [RPF has been variously
described as either a gulag by critics or a boot camp by the "Church".]
"We tend to forget that the so-called "cult" phenomenon, like the New Age
movement itself, is hardly anything new: It's essentially an attempt at a
"revival" of sorts of ancient pre-Christian paganism in all its forms, but
merely wearing modern "clothes" --e.g., pseudo-scientific terminology,
allegedly "innovative" or "new" philosophies, and the like.",
email@example.com in a theological discussion
with firstname.lastname@example.org of Scientology in its neo-pagan context and its
relationship to Christianity.
The Scientology Cross
[This section was attacked by Scientology Legal! According to
the lawyer, a thumbnail image of a trademark isn't Fair Use. (a
"religion" with TRADE marks!?!). Your browser just got it from
www.scientology.org rather than www.ezlink.com.]
"Crowley's Cross" is found on the reverse side of the Thoth Deck
[Tarot Cards] and (apparently) used in OTO magic[k] rituals. The artwork
for the Thoth Deck is by Frieda Harris. The cross bears some similarities
to the Golden Dawn cross,
another magic[k] group which the young Crowley joined. Paul Hume, 4th
degree OTO, has kindly summarized the relationships
between the Golden Dawn, OTO, Crowley, and the Thoth Deck.
Hubbard Maligns Christianity
Note: since Christianity accepts the Jewish Torah as Canon, see also
Hubbard Maligns Judaism.
Hubbard on the Origins of Christianity
"Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 600 BC found some
pieces of R6. And I don't know how they found it, either by watching
madmen or something, but since that time they have used it and it became
what is known as Christianity. (draws on a cigarette) The man on the
cross. There was no Christ. But the man on the cross is shown as
Everyman. So of course each person seeing a crucified man, has an
immediate feeling of sympathy for this man. Therefore you get many PCs
who says they are Christ. Now, there's two reasons for that, one is the
Roman Empire was prone to crucify people, so a person can have been
crucified, but in R6 he is shown as crucified." The Class VIII
[Auditor's] Course, Lecture 10: "Krakatoa and Beyond", Oct 3, 1968,
aboard the Apollo.
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- According to Hubbard's OT III cosmology, all of
us on Earth were implanted 75 million years ago with false memories
which he collectively calls "R6". These implants cause us to do all
sorts of crazy things, and of course Hubbard's auditing procedures can
break the power of the implants. Here, Hubbard says that Christianity
is a religious system built on parts of the R6 implants, with the
behavior of the mentally ill used as its model.
- After establishing the origins of Christianity upon the ravings of
the mentally ill, Hubbard goes on to deny the existence of Christ, saying
instead that all men share the implant of the cross, which is part of
R6. Thus, according to Hubbard, responding to Christ is simply being
under the control of a false memory implant.
- "A Dutch Scientologist argued that when Hubbard said "there was no
Christ' in the lecture you referred to, he was saying that the crucified
person that featured in the R6 implant was not the person Jesus Christ. In
the quote Hubbard explains why many people at some point in auditing sessions
seem to remember that they were Jesus, but that that is not the case, but
people are either remembering the part of the R6 implant where everyone
sees themselves as a crucified man, or are remembering a former life in
Roman times when crucifiction was used as punishment." - Rasta Robert
- Hubbard suggests that Christ's popularity may be due to many
Christians' previous lives in the Roman Empire, where they themselves
may have been crucified.
- While Hubbard never specifies "somebody" or "somewhere", he
does specify the time (600 BC). It is difficult to guess what actual
event to which he may be referring. 600 BC roughly coincides with the
start of the Hebrews' Babylonian Exile period (582 BC), which
produced the apocalyptic prophesies of Daniel - prophesies later
reiterated by Ezekiel, Isaiah, and Jeremiah, and eventually in
Christianity's Book of Revelations. The apocalyptic prophesies are
filled with images of God, the Devil, and angels, which is as Hubbard
describes R6 in OT-III. Incidentally, Mormons believe that in
600 BC, JHVH directed a Jew to leave Judah and go to North America.
If anyone else can make a connection to 600 BC, please contact me.
- Geoff Burling suggests Hubbard
may be referring (unattributed, as was his custom) to Will Durant's
multivolume work, The Story of Civilization.
- The death of Christ on the cross of course happened after 600 BC.
However, it was prophesied in Psalm 22, which is dated at around 1000 BC
during the reign of King David: "(1) My God, my God, why has thou
forsaken me?...(14) I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out
of joint; my heart is like wax, it is melted within my breast; (15) My
strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue cleaves to my jaws;
thou dost lay me in the dust of death. (16) Yea, dogs are round about
me; a company of evildoers encircle me; they have pierced my hands and
feet - (17) I can count all my bones - they stare and gloat over me;
(18) they divide my garments among them, and for my raiment they cast
- The highest auditor class is XII. This lecture is delivered to
Class VIII trainees. It is my understanding that Class VIII auditors
typically deliver the clearing and lower OT levels of processing. In
any case, Class VIIIs are well-indoctrinated and predisposed to
accepting Hubbard's claims without question. These auditors then go on
to "counsel" lower-level church members with this "knowledge" of R6 and
- In an example of showmanship, Hubbard can be heard in the audio
taking a puff of his cigarette before delivering his punchline.
Hubbard on the Basis of Christianity
"The whole Christian movement is based on the victim. Compulsion of the
overt-motivator sequence. They won by appealing to victims. We can win
by converting victims. Christianity succeeded by making people into
victims. We can succeed by making victims into people.",
HCOB 18 July, 1959, under "Historical Note".
- According to Hubbard, victims are at effect, which is
antithetical to the objectives of Scientology ("making the able more
- The overt-motivator sequence is Scientology jargon . According to Hubbard, thinking bad thoughts
about someone is a "motivator" to commit an overt act against that
person. Since Christ was crucifed (an overt), there must be a bad
thought preceding it. Perhaps Hubbard is saying people compulsively
join Christianity because they are sorry for their overt against
Christ because their bad thoughts (sin) caused his crucifixion.
- While Christ was certainly a victim, Hubbard misses the point
of Christianity - that God came to us to offer reconciliation, and
that Christ's death satisfied the Jewish laws regarding atonement
for sins (See Paul's letter to the Hebrews). Hubbard mocks Christ's
"victimhood" as being powerlessness (again entirely missing the
- Christianity does not teach Christians to be victims, as Hubbard
implies. However, scripture is full of repressed peoples, hoping for
God's deliverance (e.g. the Hebrews in Egypt, Babylon, the Maccabees,
the Jews under Roman domination, etc.)
Hubbard on the Roman Catholic Church
"The Roman Catholic Church, through watching the dramatizations of
people picked up some little fragments of R6." The Class VIII
[Auditor's] Course, Lecture 10: "Krakatoa and Beyond", Oct 3, 1968,
aboard the Apollo.
- "Dramatizations" are the actions that people perform in response to
their engrams or false memories. Hubbard's theory of R6 includes the
command "to forget" and Hubbard is claiming that parts of R6 occasionally
surface. The Roman Catholic Church apparently saw these and invented
Christianity. Note that Hubbard's time line is incorrect; Christianity
preceeded the Church of Rome. Of course, the Churches in Greece and other
parts of Asia Minor also escape Hubbard's attention.
Choosing the Church of Rome as the progenitor of Christianity is like
saying clams were the progenitors of human beings (which Hubbard also
happened to claim in History of Man).
- This reference is quite close to the previous reference and
could be another interpretation of the same passage. However, the mention
of the Roman Catholic Church by name makes this sentence appear to be
unique and therefore genuine.
Hubbard on the Leaders of the Christian Church
Also the Christian Church used (and uses) implanting
(with a squirrel version of the "7s"). These gangsters were
the Nicomidians from lower Egypt who were chased out for criminal
practices (implanting officials). They took over the
Niocene Creed before the year zero, invented Christ (who comes
from the crucifixion in R6 75m years ago) and implanted their
way to "power". The original Nicomidians date about 600 BC
and people who were Christ date at 75m years ago.
- L. Ron Hubbard, Resistive Cases, Former Therapy, HCOB 23 Sep
- Not known for his technical accuracy, Hubbard surpasses himself in
this passage. Hubbard's knowledge of Christianity was quite limited,
and it shows in this and other writings on the subject.
- The Niocene[sic] Creed was ratified at the First Ecumenical
Council in 325 A.D. in the Constantinople suburb of Nicea, thus
the name Nicene. Hubbard misstates both the time and place.
- Hubbard has the chain of events perfectly backward in an attempt
to invalidate Christianity. In fact, Christianity existed first,
then met at Nicea, and created the Creed.
- Nicea and Constantinople (today Iznik and Istanbul) are in Turkey,
which is of course in Asia Minor and not in lower Egypt.
Nicomidia[sic] is really "Nicomedia" and was located next to Nicea.
- The Nicene Creed is a statement of belief that is common to all
Christian churches. It cannot be "taken over" any more than
the Gospel of Matthew can be "taken over".
- The Nicene Creed expresses the Christian belief in God as a Trinity
(Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). This belief is unique to Christianity.
The Christian Church could not "take over" the Nicene Creed because
the Creed could not exist before Christianity.
- There were no Christ ca 1 A.D, therefore there were no Christians
in Byzantium, therefore there was no Creed to be "taken" by the
Nicomedians that were not in lower Egypt.
- There is no year zero; January 1, 1 A.D. follows December 31,
1 B.C. (of course the contemporary calendar of the time was the
Roman "ab urbe condita" calendar, as modified by Julius Caesar
in the 40's B.C., and the B.C./A.D. system was only superimposed
on these dates later).
- The reference to Egypt may stem from Hubbard's mentor, Aleister
Crowley, who studied Egyptian magick cults. Hubbard studied these same
cults prior to writing Dianetics. One of the bishops at the
Council of Nicea was from Egypt, which could also explain Hubbard's
- Consistent with other Advanced Technology passages, Hubbard
asserts that Christ never existed and is part of R6, the bad
movies that were shown to everyone on Earth 75 million years ago. Thus,
according to Hubbard, the real Crucifixion occurred 75 million years ago
and is only an implant (false memory).
- Hubbard's "proof" of R6 is based on auditing engrams. However,
"An Experimental Investigation of Hubbard's Engram Hypothesis (Dianetics)",
showed that Hubbard could not retrieve an engram, therefore his R6 hypothesis
is baseless. There is no physical evidence in the fossil record from 75 mya
for R6's hydrogen bombs.
- The 7s refers to a Scientology auditing process.
- squirrel refers to altered Scientology technology. Hubbard
and Scientology does not allow religious dissent; standing orders are to
"smash the squirrels" - persecute non-orthodox splinter groups into
- "implanted their way to 'power'" deserves some translation from
Hubbardese. "implanted" refers to the coerced insertion of false
memories into someone to achieve control. Thus, Hubbard implies that
the Christian Church exerts mind control over its followers. It is
untrue that the Christian Church in general and as a matter of doctrine
uses mind control. Indeed, the reverse may be true; Bob Penny, former
Scientology member, wrote an essay on Social Control in Scientology,
which is found in the FACTNet archive.
- "power" is the highest condition in Hubbard's Ethics system. To
be in power means to be at cause over others.
Hubbard on Heaven
"For a long while, some people have been cross with me for my lack of
co-operation in believing in a Christian Heaven, God and Christ. I have
never said I didn't disbelieve in a Big Thetan but there was certainly
something very corny about Heaven et al. Now I have to apologize. There
was a Heaven. Not too unlike, in cruel betrayal, the heaven of the
Assassins in the 12th Century who, like everyone else, dramatized the
whole track implants - if a bit more so. The symbol of the crucified
Christ is very apt indeed. It's the symbol of a thetan betrayed.",
- L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB 11 May, 1963
- Apparently, Hubbard had been denying God and Christ for quite some
time, upsetting Scientologists who were Christian.
- Hubbard employs a triple negative ("never said I didn't disbelieve").
While this might be expected in a lecture, HCOBs are written on paper and
are presumably proofread by Hubbard. Hubbard may be slyly saying that
he does not believe in God while making it sound like he might.
- Hubbard says the Christian believe in the wrong kind of Heaven, that
Heaven is a betrayal. In HCOB 11 May, 1963 [at end of
post], Hubbard talks about Heaven as a series
of implants, the earlier version looking beautiful, but a later version
looking shabby and unkempt. Note that Hubbard says "there was
[emphasis added] a heaven", implying it no longer exists.
Hubbard Again on Heaven
"Further, we have our hands on an appalling bit of technology where the
world is concerned. With rapidity and a Meter it can be shown that Heaven
is a false dream and that the old religion was based on very painful lie,
- L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB 11 May, 1963
- HCOB 11 May, 1963 [at end of post]
describes an implant [false memory] that Hubbard claims to
have "discovered". Hubbard says this implant lies at the root of
religion's "appearance of insanity". Heaven is vividly described
in the implant, which at first appears like Bush Gardens in Pasadena.
Hubbard then describes a "shabby" form of Heaven, which has been
transformed by "one trillion years" of betrayal. Hubbard finishes
with the above quote.
- Like many of Hubbard's works, HCOB 11 May, 1963 contains
gratuitous insults to other religions. Hubbard (and by extension
Scientology) maligns other religions in their upper-level courses
while publicly claiming to be "tolerant" of other religions.
Hubbard on the Cross and Christ
"Religion does much to keep the assumption in restimulation, being
basically a control mechanism used by those who have sent the preclear
into a body. You will find the cross as a symbol all over the universe,
and the Christ legend as implant in preclears a million years
ago.", Professional Auditors Bulletins, vol. 2, p. 26 ,
- Here, Hubbard claims that the cross is a common symbol. Taken with
Hubbard's teaching of Past Lives, the implication is that the
cross is just part of the baggage we carry around in our Reactive
Mind. Thus, it's appearance in Christianity is spurious. This is
at odds with the historical record; this form of execution is documented
outside of Christianity.
- Again Hubbard asserts that Christ is a myth, a false memory.
Hubbard on the "Chaos" caused by Christ
"A few operating thetans - scarcity - could lead to trouble. Witness
the chaos resulting from the activities and other-determinism technology
of one operating thetan 2,000 years ago." - PAB 31, Duplication
- The Professional Auditor's Bulletins are a primary source of
information for Scientology Auditors or spiritual counsellors.
- Tom Voltz, ex-Scientologist who helped compile the PABs, comments
on other anti-Christian writings in the
Hubbard on Christ's Spiritual Authority
"Neither Lord Buddha nor Jesus Christ were OTs according to
evidence. They were just a shade above clear". Certainty
magazine, Vol 5 #10.
- OTs are Scientology's highest spiritual level, and Clears are at
the next lower rung. Scientology "technology" transforms people into
Clears by the tens of thousands, all of whom are spiritual equals to
Jesus Christ, whom Christians hold to be God incarnate on Earth. Thus,
Scientology claims to be able to create God.
- While I must admit a lack of understanding with respect to
Buddhism, the implication that Scientology produces hundreds of
Buddha every year is extraordinary. If there are Buddhists
who would like to explain Hubbard's statement on Buddha in the context
of their religion, I'd be happy to put it here.
Hubbard on Love
"Love, if you have ever noticed, does not much care where it sites
on the tone-scale as we find a young man deeply in love starving himself
to death (a characteristic of apathy) and a young girl in love in dreamy
enthusiasm which makes her bloom. We find love used in Christianity
about twelve feet below 0.0 [death] and in New York precisely at 2.5 on
the tone scale." Professional Auditor's Bulletin No. 8, "Viewpoint
Processing, p. 50 in _PABs_ Book 1, May 1953 to April 1954.
- See the
Scientology Tone Scale
- Hubbard states that Christian love is lower-toned than death. On
the Tone Scale, death is below other emotions such as antagonism,
hostility, anger, and hate. In effect, Hubbard says that hate and anger
are preferable to Christian love.
- For those that missed it inside Hubbard's ramblings, Hubbard says
that Christian love is significantly lower-toned (more evil) than the
love of New Yorkers. I am not sure who should be more offended,
Christians or New Yorkers.
Hubbard on the Soul
"Now we say this thing called a thetan is capable of producing all
sorts of things, and we say this is THE person. So therefore, we differ
enormously from the Christian statements on the subject. They say,
'you, son, must save your soul.' The fellow says, 'I don't have one!'
So therefore, the christian religion cannot possibly be true...and they
lose all kinds of converts this way. Somebody saving his soul is doing
something very interesting. He evidently has something set up over
here, that has probably, mass, that he says is his soul! And then he
goes about saving it and it turns out to be a demon circuit called
"Mama," or something. Now he expects THIS to go to heaven. (laughs)",
Clearing Congress Lecture (videotape), L. Ron Hubbard, 1958.
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- Scientology doctrine states that concept of the soul is a demon
circuit. This is incompatible with Christianity.
- "mama" is a reference to Freud about which he was speaking earlier
in the lecture.
Hubbard on the "Christ Game"
"You'll find, by the way, another man at this stage, and his preclears
will shift the identities and borrow facsimilies. Like men, there's
what they call 'The ChristGame' and that game has been played and
played and played and play..., honest to Pete, these cards are just
so thin, they've been laid down amongst the coffee cups, and so forth,
of the whole universe. You'll find out thousands of years before the
year 1 AD, Earth, you will have facsimilies and dolls made up like Christ.
Fact one: a million years ago is occasionally rigged with Christ and the
devil and an angel. It's a fascinating thing, it's an old game. Here on
Earth, there was undoubtably a Christ. One of the reasons he was ... he
swept in so suddenly ah, and he, he would go forward so hard, is he had
a good assist back of him in terms of an implant.",
Philadelphia Doctorate Course, Tape #24, L. Ron Hubbard, 1952.
- Hubbard claims that Jesus Christ was real, but that Christianity
was established not because of merit, but because Christ triggered an
implant [false memory]. This is similar to his "Man on the cross, there
was no Christ" statement.
- A facsimile is a "mental image picture", or false memory. "shift
the identities and borrow facsimiles" refers to Hubbard's concept which
is similar to Multiple Personality Disorder or schizophrenia.
- Here, Hubbard states that it is common for people think they are Christ
since the Whole Track (a person's history of reincarnation) has events of
this type. These events have occurred to a great many people a great number
of times to the point that Hubbard calls The Crucifixion "a game".
- Hubbard's cosmology includes periods trillions of years ago in which
spirits, having no bodies of their own, inhabited doll bodies. Recall
that Hubbard was a science fiction writer.
- In the PDC and elsewhere, Hubbard mentions "Christ and the devil and
an angel" combination.
A Thumbnail Comparison of Scientology and
Christianity, Piek Stromsholm, et.al. A side-by-side comparison
of Christian and Scientology scriptures. A "Must Read".
Refuting Scientology's Compatibility Claims
Hubbard's Views on Christianity,
Harrington. A scholarly essay which includes references from PABs,
HCOBs, and other Hubbard writings.
What Christians Need to Know about Scientology, Wakefield,
[Note: Wakefield references the initial version
of OT VIII, which has
been replaced one or more times. New OT VIII is
described by Ariane Jackson.]
Margery Wakefield also wrote Road to Xenu,
a narrative account of life in Scientology.
OT-VIII, Initial Version. Contains statements by Hubbard that
he is the Anti-Christ, Lucifer brings enlightenment, and that Jesus
Christ was a lover of young boys.
The OT VIII document was posted to a.r.s., and subsequently included
in a list of works claimed by Scientology in a copyright infringement
lawsuit. Later, the "pedophile" version of OT VIII was withdrawn
from the list of infringing items, and Scientology now disclaims
ownership of it.
Jesse Prince, as 2nd in command at RTC when OT VIII was released,
witnessed the upset it caused, as well as its subsequent alteration
by David Miscavige (head of RTC). In an interview with Lawrence
Wollersheim (FACTNet director), Jesse
Prince validates the "pedophile" version of OT VIII as being the
initial version. Jesse states that the version posted to the
Internet was probably reconstructed from one or more people's
memory of the original OT8, and that it contains too many typographical
errors to be an RTC product.
Controversy on alt.religion.scientology: Is Scientology Compatible
A review of his material makes it clear that Hubbard knowingly lies to
low-level Scientologists about being compatible with Christianity. It
is painfully clear that Christian Scientologists must eventually
renounce Christianity to reach Scientology's highest levels. The
Pattinson First Amended Complaint details how a
celebrity ex-OT7 was swindled and how Scientology attempted to coerce
him into believing that Scientology is the only valid religion.
After attaining OT VIII, the Scientologist has come to accept that God
not only does not exist, but also believes that God is just another
implant that must be audited out like any other false memory. In this
manner, Scientology binds the minds of its believers, then warehouses
their spirits for the remainder of their life. From the Christian point
of view, Hubbard's system is evil to the extreme; Scientology is a
system of spiritual treadmills away from God.